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This is worthy of some debate, deeply philosophical thoughts from out there in the ether.

For instance, is belief in God an evolutionary motive of survival, and does evolution, in essence, draw us to believe in higher powers and metaphysical forces? Human evolution in general, did it draw us to seek out a greater energy consciousness, or did that greater energy consciousness draw us up from evolution to seek forth?

Neither?

Perplexity, yet so simplistic.

The fact that we can never really know the ultimate truth keeps us searching, and thus, the perpetuation of evolutionary traits and survival instincts continue unfolding... We're in a very rare position here on planet earth, with great responsibility, that we can even comprehend ANY of this and put forth action accordingly.

Were we crafted, embedded to comprehend, or is it all cosmic happenstance?

Nothing really beyond... the here and now?

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Mutations Make Evolution Irreversible:
By Resurrecting Ancient Proteins, Researchers
Find That Evolution Can Only Go Forward
Sep. 24, 2009

A University of Oregon research team has found that evolution can never go backwards, because the paths to the genes once present in our ancestors are forever blocked. The findings -- the result of the first rigorous study of reverse evolution at the molecular level -- appear in the Sept. 24 issue of Nature.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 143335.htm

Scientists reveal driving force behind evolution:
February 25, 2010

Scientists at the University of Liverpool have provided the first experimental evidence that shows that evolution is driven most powerfully by interactions between species, rather than adaptation to the environment.

http://www.physorg.com/news186311100.html

I believe that there's some driving spark beyond mere survival instinct. The answer is everything and nothing. Endless check marks and none of the above. That's the ultimate answer, that opposites are sames and in the grand scheme energy is all neutral. Random chords and notes bouncing off each other to create cosmos, harmony...

If there is a "God" it didn't plot and plan out every aspect of earth life. That became the job of humans, when they realized they could (try). Before that, it was nature who pulled the strings, and it still is, we just like to pretend we're in complete control. It helps us to sleep at night, wolves howling.

Yet at the same time, "God", if a consciousness at any level, is already connected to the ultimate beginnings and ends: loops, dimensions, cycles. "God" is witness to every possible outcome, already unfolded. There is no mystery save perhaps one ever unreachable.

Perhaps "God" set forth the motion, but itself is omnipotently challenged; Trying to figure out the answer to the riddle of its own dilemma. The "God in Amnesia" scenario, ever struggling to fit the puzzle together. And life, at all forms, human intelligence or otherwise, is a way for "God" to experience itself at deeper and more personal levels of existence.

"God" is omnipotent, has already seen the final page of the books, yet NEEDS life to exist at different levels of consciousness and awareness, to figure out its own mystery. Human philosophy, pondering the imponderables, adds to "God's" own sense of self, and in turn, resonates with a greater human understanding of the divine.

And while it's all been done, prayers can sometimes be answered, meditations met, miracles and synchronicity of an unexplained variety will occur. "God" is a reflection of Life and Death, and Life and Death is a reflection of The Divine. Without a certain level of intellect to appreciate the beauty and majesty and wonder, the point would all be moot. Planets are alive, trees are alive, yet they cannot comprehend the complexities of an organic brain and mind.

MY POINT: There is no "forward" or "backward", all of time/dimension happens simultaneously at the same instant. Even for stars, life is short.

Evolution is a matter of perspective.

Not to be confused. "God" doesn't need humanity, there are billions of other planets, with trillions of life forms to comprehend "God" and "Evolution" on some level of thought.

I'd like to believe that the destruction of life on this planet, and humans, would "hurt" "God" on some level, mostly on a level of consciousness. It ("God") would lose a great resource of experience and potential. The planet itself would vomit and cry and plead... "God" would hear yet the gears are already set in motion. "God" and "Earth" are old cohorts, they'll still be exchanging longing, romantic glances long after humans are bashed against the rocks amidst the ultimate fall.

There comes a point when humans step over the barrier, and are no longer worthy, on whole, to exist in the amazing consequences granted us. When all becomes pain, and pride, and gluttony, sloth, deadly sins and murder. When humanity becomes detrimental to life, the earth will shake us loose.

When man sets himself as "God", and does not reconcile this arrogance of belief, then great destruction will set right the balance and equilibrium. We are given many chances, but when we become far more burden than boon, we are cut off from the source...

And humans, those who are mini-dictators and tin gods and see humanity as their herd to bleed out... These humans will ultimately suffer the worst consequences of all, forgotten and wiped clean from the 'book of life". Their seed will rot and only bare sickened fruit, every unkind irony burning out of their hearts like festering decay. They will pay for their actions and be unable to hide behind their affluence and wealth, it will bite them without mercy so that they see their folly...

They will lose far more than they taketh away.



Interaction. Period. Same species, cross-species, environmental.

The “Red Queen Theory” -Scientists Find Driving Force Behind Evolution is Fight for Survival not Environment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Queen

No doubt some Lewis Carroll inspired scientists afoot, just in time for the movie too. Controlling the news, media and entertainment flow, now THAT'S evolution for yeh.

7 Coolest Animal Cross-breeds:
February 25, 2010
http://www.weirdworm.com/7-coolest-animal-cross-breeds/

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Evolution is the same thing as time - it simply never stands still nor goes backward.

Humanity has evolved in several ways - physically by interaction (happens in what is called "short term") - physically by the driving engine of nature (ie cell mutations caused by the effects of Carbon 14 on cells - this is the long term evolutiona by celluar mutations passing into the genetic continuity of generations) and the third form of evolution is mental evolution - ie the generatioal evolution that comes from new discoveries and higher awareness of natural phenomenom.

Religion has also evolved to try to keep pace with human evolution - 5,000 years ago god was far different to what it was 2,000 years ago - and the reilgious dogma/doctrine has had to evolved to keep pace with the form of god belief that the cults accept at the time.

In the not so distant past the religious dogma was very much based on the OT - but as scientific discoveries showed most of the OT to be laughably ridiculous the dogma and doctrine had to evolve toward the NT and a personified god rather than the fire and brimstone one of the past. Thus was born and died the mythical Jesus. Simply evolution driven by need.

kev



Horus and Jesus... Still though, the more things change, the more they stay the same....

Flexible and malleable are the basis for all lies and religion tops the list. Preying on the superstitions of the weak minded has always been part of the control arsenal for politics and religion. Socio-evolution is mandatory for them as they fight to maintain control - the current mindset is to dumb down the populations as much as possible for the remaining time - cattle go easily into the chute of the slaugther house until they smell the blood - by then it is too late.

Here is proof of generational "dumbing down".

It has been going on for a long time. Main tools being TV and video games - the film studios and the classroom.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/uk_news/edu ... 565258.stm